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This blog is edited by Richard Parker, the President and Founder of Diomo Corporation and a world renowned expert on buying and selling businesses. He is the author of six comprehensive programs on buying businesses including the best-selling How To Buy A Good Business At A Great Price© series and has had over 100 articles published. Richard is also a highly sought after intermediary and recipient of the Business Brokers of Florida Top Dollar Producer having sold the highest volume of business in the State of Florida. Since 1990 he has purchased ten businesses and has started several more. As President and Founder of Diomo Corporation, his materials and live seminars have helped thousands of prospective small business buyers in over 70 countries realize their dream of business ownership. He is also on the Trump University faculty for Entrepreneurship.

This blog is Richard's exclusive space to rant and rave to the BizQuest audience of buyers and sellers on whatever subject tickles his fancy, but he promises to include at least an occasional posting having something to do with buying or selling businesses.

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You can send Richard your questions or otherwise contact him by visiting the Diomo Corporation website and clicking on "Contact".

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Comments

David E. Coffman CPA/ABV, CVA

I am a CPA that specializes in business valuation. One of my biggest problems is competing with CPAs, tax preparers and accountants, that are not qualified to do valuations. They have little or no valuation education and experience yet they take advantage of their 'trusted advisor' status with their clients to provide sub-standard valuations. As of January 1, 2008, the American Institute of CPAs requires all CPAs that perform valuation engagements to meet their Statements on Standards for Valuation Services which contain competency standards. I hope this will reduce this problem, but I urge anyone seeking a business valuation to make sure the person or firm they engage has at least one major valuation certification and adequate valuation experience. Do not assume they are qualified simply because they are CPAs.

Richard Parker

Mr. Coffman: I have only one word about your comment - "Amen".

Salvatore Urso

Richard,

I found your article very interesting. I would like to ask the CPA the following question- Which data base of comps is he using? This is the key. If he uses comps that do not add-back depreciation, etc., he may have a point. I like to use bizcomps which clearly looks at EBITDA plus 100% of one owner working full time. Period. Now you have apple-to-apples; he has apples-to-nuts!

Richard

Salvatore - excellent point about the comps and certainly your comment about making an apples-to-apples analysis is so important. Often, people involved in the buying process on both sides of the table will randomly throw out a multiple by stating "it's a 4x multiple" - great, but a multiple of what number? In the example I discussed, the CPA wasn't using any comps and moreover, it seems to me he wasn't using any rational nor acceptable means to arrive at what he espoused to be "the only way" to do a valuation.

Dylan Garland

I agree, especially with the key point you make that buyers must educate themselves as much as they can, rather than merely relying on outside "experts", and ultimately buyers must be prepared to make tough decisions on their own. And during the process of buying the business is a good time to develop that habit, as the tough decisions will not be any fewer once you own the business!

Michael Pfeffer

Richard:
As a Certified Business Appraiser for eight years and a business broker for the last two, I can assure you there is no "one way" to value a business. It is often said if ten appraisers work with the same information they will produce eleven results. It is critical to understand the purpose of the valuation and the standard of value to be applied. The value to a hypothetical buyer (fair market value) is quite different than the value to a particular buyer (investment value). If the buyer and seller agree on a price, utilize the skills of the CPA to help structure the deal for tax purposes, not to establish a fair price. The price for that particular transaction has already been established by the parties to it. If a valuation is necessary, rely on a professional business appraiser.

Greg

I think that the CPA might have a good point. In "assets heavy" industries one should probably include assets as part of business valuation.
For example, you have Corp A which makes $100K in NI/owners benefit w/$0 in assets & Corp B which makes $0 in NI/owners w/$100K in assets (at market value). I do not think it makes sense to say Corp B is worthless. It worth at least $100K & Corp A is multiple of $100K.

Richard Parker

MY COMMENTS TO MICHAEL AND GREG POSTS:

Michael - Great points. Yes indeed when a buyer and seller agree on a price then everyone else should stay the heck out of any further valuations. There is no "one way only" for valuations - well put - it's an art; not a science.

Greg - While assets can be, in some cases, included in a valuation in order to obtain a range through a variety of methods, the example you cite can actually prove to be a danger zone. Assets drive revenue. If a company allegedly has $100,000 of assets but zero profits, try selling those assets in the open market. If someone will pay $100k for them then yes, the assets, NOT the business, is worth $100k. The buyer pool is generally miniscule, if any, and typically, in an asset-only sale, they are worth far less than what the seller believes someone should pay for them. However, I do see your point, and I certainly agree that Company A should generate a multiple of the $100k in NI as you state.

Dustin Sigall

Regardless of the valuation method being used, a business is ultimately worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. Because most buyers are unfamiliar with the "going rate" for a business in a particular industry, they turn to their trusted advisors for input. As much as I would like to blame CPAs and Attorneys for throwing curve balls at my deals, I can't really fault them for wanting to sustain client retention. The last thing they want is the finger pointed at them for subjecting their client into making a poor decision. As long as CPAs and Attorneys remain conservative, they know their clients will feel the comforts of having their “big brother” looking after them.

Richard Parker

Dustin - I agree with you that a business is worth what a buyer will pay. And certainly, a buyer should trust their own legal and financial advisors before any others. The issue being raised however goes beyond that - trusted advisors should be sticking to the disciplines in which they are trained. All parties should welcome the discussion and input from any attorney or CPA in a deal. Healthy discussion and debate ultimately pays dividends for the buyer and seller. But when any party begins to dispense advice on matters which they are not qualified for, then they are in fact doing a grave disservice to the people who are paying their fees.

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